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老犹太摇摇头，刚打算回答，陌生人要他打住，这时两人已经来到费金的门前，陌生人指着大门说，有什么事最好还是进屋去说，自己在附近站了那么久，饱受风寒，连血都冻僵了。 Fagin looked as if he could have willingly excused himself from taking home a visitor at that unseasonable hour; and, indeed, muttered something about having no fire; but his companion repeating his request in a peremptory manner, he unlocked the door, and requested him to close it softly, while he got a light. 费金面带难色，似乎很想推托，深更半夜的，自己不便把生人带到家里。果不其然，费金咕咕哝哝地说了一通，屋里没有生火什么的，可是同伴却专横地重申自己的要求，他只得打开门，要同伴进来之后轻轻把门关上，自己去取个亮。 'It's as dark as the grave,' said the man, groping forward a few steps. 'Make haste!' “这儿黑得跟坟墓一样，”那人摸索着朝前走了几步。“快一点。” 'Shut the door,' whispered Fagin from the end of the passage. As he spoke, it closed with a loud noise. “把门关上。”费金从过道尽头小声地说。话音未落，门发出一声巨响关上了。 'That wasn't my doing,' said the other man, feeling his way. 'The wind blew it to, or it shut of its own accord: one or the other. Look sharp with the light, or I shall knock my brains out against something in this confounded hole.' “这可没我的分，”另一位一边辨方向，一边说。“是风刮过去的，要不就是它自个儿关上的。快把亮拿过来，不然我会在这该死的地洞里撞个脑袋开花的。” 
费金摸黑走下厨房楼梯，稍停又擎着一支点亮的蜡烛走上来，还带来了消息，托比·格拉基特已经在楼下里间睡着了，几个少年在前边一间，也都睡了。他招招手要陌生人跟上，自己领路往楼上走去。 'We can say the few words we've got to say in here, my dear,' said the Jew, throwing open a door on the first floor; 'and as there are holes in the shutters, and we never show lights to our neighbours, we'll set the candle on the stairs. There!' “在这儿我们可以有什么说什么，亲爱的，”老犹太推开二楼上的一道门，说道。“百叶窗有几个窟窿，我们把蜡烛搁在楼梯上，隔壁绝对看不到亮，喏。” With those words, the Jew, stooping down, placed the candle on an upper flight of stairs, exactly opposite to the room door. This done, he led the way into the apartment; which was destitute of all movables save a broken arm-chair, and an old couch or sofa without covering, which stood behind the door. Upon this piece of furniture, the stranger sat himself with the air of a weary man; and the Jew, drawing up the arm-chair opposite, they sat face to face. It was not quite dark; the door was partially open; and the candle outside, threw a feeble reflection on the opposite wall. 老犹太嘴里念叨看弯下腰，把蜡烛放在上边一段楼梯上，正对房门后放看一张没有椅罩的躺椅或者沙发，除此以外，没有一样能搬走的东西。陌生人在躺椅上坐下来，一副精疲力竭的样子。老犹太把扶手椅拖过来，两个人对面而坐。这里不算太黑，房门半开着，外边那盏蜡烛把一束激光投射到对而墙上。 They conversed for some time in whispers. Though nothing of the conversation was distinguishable beyond a few disjointed words here and there, a listener might easily have perceived that Fagin appeared to be defending himself against some remarks of the stranger; and that the latter was in a state of considerable irritation. They might have been talking, thus, for a quarter of an hour or more, when Monks--by which name the Jew had designated the strange man several times in the course of their colloquy--said, raising his voice a little, 他们压低嗓门谈了一阵。除了偶尔几个断断续续的字眼，谈话的内容一点也听不清，尽管如此，听众还是不难听出费金似乎正在就同伴的某些言词替自己辩护，而后者相当烦躁。他们就这样嘀咕了一刻钟，或许稍多一点，孟可司--老犹太在谈话过程中几次用这个名字来称呼陌生人--略略提高嗓门说道： 'I tell you again, it was badly planned. Why not have kept him here among the rest, and made a sneaking, snivelling pickpocket of him at once?' “我再跟你说一遍，这事安排得糟透了。干吗不让他和另外几个呆在一块儿，把他训练成一个偷偷摸摸的鼻涕虫扒手不就结了？” 
“哪有这么简单哩！”老犹太耸了耸肩，喊道。 'Why, do you mean to say you couldn't have done it, if you had chosen?' demanded Monks, sternly. 'Haven't you done it, with other boys, scores of times? If you had had patience for a twelvemonth, at most, couldn't you have got him convicted, and sent safely out of the kingdom; perhaps for life?' “哦，你是说你就是有法子也办不到，是不是？”孟可司板着面孔，问道。“你在别的小子身上不是于过好几十次了吗？只要你有耐心，顶多一年，不就可以让他给判个刑，稳稳当当地送出英国，说不定还是一去不回，是不是？” 'Whose turn would that have served, my dear?' inquired the Jew humbly. “这事好处归谁，亲爱的？”老犹太谦卑地问。 'Mine,' replied Monks. “我啊。”孟可司回答。 'But not mine,' said the Jew, submissively. 'He might have become of use to me. When there are two parties to a bargain, it is only reasonable that the interests of both should be consulted; is it, my good friend?' “又不是我，”老犹太谈吐间显得十分恭顺。“他本来对我有用。一桩买卖两方都要做，那就得照顾两方面的利益才对，是不是，我亲爱的朋友？” 
“那又怎么着？”孟可司问。 'I saw it was not easy to train him to the business,' replied the Jew; 'he was not like other boys in the same circumstances.' “我发觉要训练他干这一行还挺费事，”老犹太答道，“他不像别的处境相同的小子。” 'Curse him, no!' muttered the man, 'or he would have been a thief, long ago.' “见他的鬼去，是不一样。”那人咕噜着，“不然老早就成小偷了。” 'I had no hold upon him to make him worse,' pursued the Jew, anxiously watching the countenance of his companion. 'His hand was not in. I had nothing to frighten him with; which we always must have in the beginning, or we labour in vain. What could I do? Send him out with the Dodger and Charley? We had enough of that, at first, my dear; I trembled for us all.' “我抓不到把柄，叫他变坏，”老犹太焦急地注视着同伴的脸色，继续说道。“他还没沾过手，能吓唬他的东西我一样也没有，刚开头的时候，我们横竖得有点什么，要不就是白费劲。我能怎么样？派他跟机灵电和查理一块儿出去？一出门就叫我们吃不消，亲爱的。为了我们大家，我真是提心吊胆。” 'THAT was not my doing,' observed Monks. “这不关我的事。”孟可司说道。 
“是啊，是啊，亲爱的。”老犹太故态复萌。“眼下我不是争论这件事。因为，假如压根就没有这回事，你根本不会注意到他，到后来你又发觉正想找的就是他。嗨，靠着那姑娘，我替你把他弄回来了，再往后她就宠上他啦。” 'Throttle the girl!' said Monks, impatiently. “勒死那姑娘。”孟可司心急火燎地说。 'Why, we can't afford to do that just now, my dear,' replied the Jew, smiling; 'and, besides, that sort of thing is not in our way; or, one of these days, I might be glad to have it done. I know what these girls are, Monks, well. As soon as the boy begins to harden, she'll care no more for him, than for a block of wood. You want him made a thief. If he is alive, I can make him one from this time; and, if--if--' said the Jew, drawing nearer to the other,--'it's not likely, mind,--but if the worst comes to the worst, and he is dead--' “嗨，眼下我们还不能那么干，我亲爱的，”老犹太微笑着答道。“再说了，那种事不是我们的本行，或者没准哪一天，我会巴不得找人给办了。这些小妞的底细，孟可司，我心里有数。一旦那孩子横下心来，她的关心不会比对一块木头多到哪儿去。你想叫他当小偷，只要他还活着，我就能让他从今以后干这一行。如果--如果--”老犹太朝对方身边凑过去--“这倒也不大可能，你听着--但万一发生最糟糕的情况，他死掉了--” 'It's no fault of mine if he is!' interposed the other man, with a look of terror, and clasping the Jew's arm with trembling hands. 'Mind that. Fagin! I had no hand in it. Anything but his death, I told you from the first. I won't shed blood; it's always found out, and haunts a man besides. If they shot him dead, I was not the cause; do you hear me? Fire this infernal den! What's that?' “那不是我的错。”另一位惊恐万状地插了进来，双手颤抖地扣住费金的肩膀。“听着，费金。这事我可没插手，从一开始我就告诉你了，什么事都可以，只是不能让他死，我不想看见流血，这种事迟早会暴露，还会搅得人老是鬼缠身。如果他们开枪打死了他，责任绝不在我。你听见没有？快放把火烧掉这鬼地方。那是什么？” 'What!' cried the Jew, grasping the coward round the body, with both arms, as he sprung to his feet. 'Where?' “什么？”老犹太也惊叫一声，伸手将吓得跳起来的胆小鬼拦腰抱住。“在哪儿？” 
“那边。”孟可司朝对面墙上瞪了一眼。“那个人影。我看见一个女人的影子，裹着披风，戴了顶软帽，一阵风似地贴着护墙板溜过去。” The Jew released his hold, and they rushed tumultuously from the room. The candle, wasted by the draught, was standing where it had been placed. It showed them only the empty staircase, and their own white faces. They listened intently: a profound silence reigned throughout the house. 老犹太松开手臂，两人慌忙从屋里奔出去。蜡烛还立在原来的地方，穿堂风已经刮得它一片狼藉，烛光照出的只有空荡荡的楼梯和他俩惨白的面孔。他们凝神听了一下，整个房子笼罩在一片死寂之中。 'It's your fancy,' said the Jew, taking up the light and turning to his companion. “那是你的幻觉。”老犹太说着从地上端起蜡烛，伸到同伴面前。 'I'll swear I saw it!' replied Monks, trembling. 'It was bending forward when I saw it first; and when I spoke, it darted away.' “我可以发誓，我看得清清楚楚。”孟可司哆哆嗦嗦地答道。“我第一眼看见的时候，那个影子正向前弓着身子，我一开口，它就跑开了。”
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